The “Dennis” Interview
Updated 2026-07-10
The “Dennis” interview is Bob Lazar’s first interview regarding his claims of working on alien spacecraft.
Unknown Anchor: “Sir, how do we know you are who you say you are and that you actually have knowledge about what’s going on at Groom Lake?”
Bob Lazar: “Well, I guess there’s no way you could really know, there’s really no way I can prove it without revealing my identity and getting myself into more trouble than I have already.”
George Knapp: “Exactly what’s going on up there?”
Bob Lazar: “Well, there’s several, actually 9, flying saucers, flying discs, that are out there of extraterrestrial origin, and, they’re basically being dismantled, Some are, well, in various stages of completion, built from other parts, and they’re being test flown and basically just analyzed.”
Unknown Anchor: “You say there’s 9 saucers. How are those tests going?”
Bob Lazar: “As far as what?”
Unknown Anchor: “As far as whether they’re successful and that sort of thing.”
Bob Lazar: “Oh, well, some of them are 100% intact and operate perfectly. The other ones are being taken apart. I was involved mainly in propulsion and the power source, Basically, as far as I can remember, about half of them do operate and the other half are just being torn down, basically to analyze the components to them.”
George Knapp: “Where did we get these saucers? How did they come into the hands of the government?”
Bob Lazar: “I haven’t the slightest idea, and you have to understand the information is very compartmentalized, and I was only allowed information that pertained particularly to what I was involved in.”
George Knapp: “But I mean, couldn’t, couldn’t our government have made them as opposed to getting them from some alien beings?”
Bob Lazar: “Totally. Impossible. The propulsion system is an, a gravity propulsion system. The power source is an antimatter reactor. This technology does not exist at all. In fact, one of the reasons that I’m coming forward with this information- it’s not only a crime against the American people, it’s a crime against the scientific community, which I’ve been part of for some time. We’re actively trying to duplicate these systems, yet they are in existence now and basically in the hands of the government.”
Unknown Anchor: “What would happen to you if the government learned that you were giving us this information?”
Bob Lazar: “Anything could happen. I don’t know. It’s, I haven’t the slightest idea.”
George Knapp: “Well, you said, you referred to getting into trouble. Have you had some repercussions already?”
Bob Lazar: “Yeah, I’ve been threatened with, being charged with espionage. I’ve had my life threatened by them, my wife’s life threatened by them, and, I mean, I don’t know where else you can go from there.”
Unknown Anchor: “Will the government ever tell us about the testing? And, and do the Soviets know about this?”
Bob Lazar: “The Soviets were involved at some specific point. They were kicked out of the program rather abruptly in the middle. I don’t know why that, why that was or what happened. They’re not very happy about it. And as far as them revealing it, I’m sure they have every intention of claiming that all the technology was developed here, and it was absolutely not.”
Unknown Anchor: “If the Soviets were kicked out of this testing program, why wouldn’t they tell us about this?”
Bob Lazar: “I have no idea. They weren’t allowed all the information. Apparently they had some, and we were basically trading with them. As far as whether they have discs or not, I don’t know. I don’t even know if they had knowledge that we actually had any there, but they were involved to some extent, and I, I don’t know how much.”
George Knapp: “What about aliens? Any of those up there at Groom Lake?”
Bob Lazar: “I really want to steer away from that right now.”
George Knapp: “Is the Star Wars program in any way related to what’s going on up there? I know some people believe that maybe we’re building Star Wars for something other than, than the Soviets.”
Bob Lazar: “This directly taps out of the Star Wars budget, um, which is very hard to follow because it requires huge amounts of money. It also, it, it taps out of a lot of other, places too that, that would be very hard to track down. But yes, Star Wars is directly related to it. The United States Navy is the part of the government that really maintains control over that.”
George Knapp: “Well, we want to thank you for joining us. Pretty interesting stuff you’ve got to say. Thank you.”
Unknown Anchor: “Thank you, sir.”